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she's going to cairo, to egypt because everybody is counting on them. they are indispensable. the president is finishing his trip in the far east and he's kept up his schedule of public events and appearances there but he's been doing some diplomacy personally. "the new york times" reporting that the president spent last night up until 2:30 in the morning making one-on-one direct phone calls with the israeli prime minister and also not the head of hamas, not the palestinian authority, but the president of egypt, which for a generation was our ally in the region, even though it was a creepy and repressive dictatorship. now that country, that crucial nation in this critical part of the world has a whole new face and maybe a whole new character in terms of its international responsibilities. nobody knows if this effort by them to broker a cease fire is going to work. but it seems almost as important for the region, for the world, for us, frankly, that if a cease fire is going to come from anywhere, it looks like it's going to come from there. joining us live from gaza is richard
she's going to cairo, to egypt because everybody is counting on them. they are indispensable. the president is finishing his trip in the far east and he's kept up his schedule of public events and appearances there but he's been doing some diplomacy personally. "the new york times" reporting that the president spent last night up until 2:30 in the morning making one-on-one direct phone calls with the israeli prime minister and also not the head of hamas, not the palestinian authority,...
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in cairo, discussions are ongoing about cease-fire. jeremy our coverage from gaza. >> good morning, gaza. this was the wake-up call sent in by israel. growing up in gaza is not easy. not far away, is the rubble left by the israeli strike on sunday that killed 10 members of this family including four children and two neighbors. they are looking for the remains of a teenage girl missing and presumed dead. this man is a relative of the dead. >> sad, may be strong. >> street are getting tougher, more solid. when they tell the parents of a boy, he will grow up for revenge. >> during the last of years, the conflict has been overshadowed by dramatic changes elsewhere in the middle east. the differences between the two sides got sharper. what makes this crisis difficult and dangerous is it is happening in a region more unstable than at any time since the 1950's. hamas released videos of rocket launches. the events of the last few weeks have silenced those who said they had forgotten how to fight israel. he said a land invasion be a political d
in cairo, discussions are ongoing about cease-fire. jeremy our coverage from gaza. >> good morning, gaza. this was the wake-up call sent in by israel. growing up in gaza is not easy. not far away, is the rubble left by the israeli strike on sunday that killed 10 members of this family including four children and two neighbors. they are looking for the remains of a teenage girl missing and presumed dead. this man is a relative of the dead. >> sad, may be strong. >> street are...
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hamas has two demands, says their exile leader in cairo. israel must under bombardment and they must lift the blockade of the strip. he said it was israel's responsibility to stop the current conflict because it was them who started it. both sides remain firm that it is up to the other to stop the violence. another recipe for an imminent cease-fire. >> our jerusalem correspondent is now in gaza we have her on the line. what is the situation where you are? >> the situation is difficult here. tonight, it's a bit more client -- quiet but it is disrupted by air strikes. shops are closed. people only go out if they really have to. because many shops are closed, the tunnels in the south are bombarded am not everything is available right now. we have learned over the past five years to only do the minimum that time and some gas stations are out of fuel. the main problems have to be casualties and hospitals working up the limit. this is part of the fact that even in normal times, they have to deal with basic shortages, electricity, and so one. agai
hamas has two demands, says their exile leader in cairo. israel must under bombardment and they must lift the blockade of the strip. he said it was israel's responsibility to stop the current conflict because it was them who started it. both sides remain firm that it is up to the other to stop the violence. another recipe for an imminent cease-fire. >> our jerusalem correspondent is now in gaza we have her on the line. what is the situation where you are? >> the situation is...
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the launch pad for peace may be in cairo. in the last 24 hours egypt has been mediating high-stakes discussions between israeli and hamas leaders. speaking today egyptian prime minister hish m kandil said -- in gaza, palestinian medical officials report 95 people have been killed in gaza including 23 children. for the second straight day, israel bombed a building housing local and international media. the target of the attack was a commanding member of an islamic jihad group who also had an apartment in the building. meanwhile, hamas continues to send rockets deep into israel. last night, israel's iron dome intercepted two rockets headed for tel aviv. yesterday, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu had tough talks on twitter writing we are exacting a heavy price from hamas and the terrorist organizations. the idf is prepared for a significant expansion of its operation. in a press gaggle on route to cambodia this morning, deputy national security adviser ben rhodes says the white house's goal is to have nations with infl
the launch pad for peace may be in cairo. in the last 24 hours egypt has been mediating high-stakes discussions between israeli and hamas leaders. speaking today egyptian prime minister hish m kandil said -- in gaza, palestinian medical officials report 95 people have been killed in gaza including 23 children. for the second straight day, israel bombed a building housing local and international media. the target of the attack was a commanding member of an islamic jihad group who also had an...
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know during obama's first term in the white house he made that incredible and passionate speech in cairo took to a vaastu muslim audience and seemed for a while to win them over has it worked and what we expect now. well most in the arab world have preferred and obama victory and would and rather than a romney win the saints really is that he is a relatively more moderate leader then romney but this doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of trepidation in his ear to see within the arab world you mentioned the speech back in two thousand and nine that now famous cairo speech in which a banner pledged that a new chapter was opening in and marry can muslim relations but since then there has been growing disappointment over the way he has dealt with issues in the arab world particularly these are the muslims he was a lot of criticisms leveled against him in his administration over the way they handled the arab spring they were accused of employing double standards and inconsistency and also accused of meddling in countries such as egypt and libya and then when it comes to the so-called unnotice
know during obama's first term in the white house he made that incredible and passionate speech in cairo took to a vaastu muslim audience and seemed for a while to win them over has it worked and what we expect now. well most in the arab world have preferred and obama victory and would and rather than a romney win the saints really is that he is a relatively more moderate leader then romney but this doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of trepidation in his ear to see within the arab world you...
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four years ago president obama gave an unprecedented speech in cairo aimed at undoing an era of brought relations with the muslim world in a speech the newly elected president projected his desire to turn the chapter on the past and embark on a new era of mutual understanding diplomacy and friendship and while many in the middle east were hopeful their optimism began to simmer as the arab spring turned to a bitter fall it became evident that palestine would remain ignored so now that obama's been elected for a second term why. that's the sentiment in the middle east and what actions can we expect from the president now that he's not seeking reelection to talk about all this and more i'm joined by our correspondent rima. thank you so much for coming in thank you for having me so really i was reading that many egyptians are relieved that obama got elected i want to read you this tweet. is a big sigh of relief from egypt the alternative was just too awful to consider do you think that's a sentiment for many that are just so grateful that it's the lesser evil other people think that way it
four years ago president obama gave an unprecedented speech in cairo aimed at undoing an era of brought relations with the muslim world in a speech the newly elected president projected his desire to turn the chapter on the past and embark on a new era of mutual understanding diplomacy and friendship and while many in the middle east were hopeful their optimism began to simmer as the arab spring turned to a bitter fall it became evident that palestine would remain ignored so now that obama's...
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more talks are expected tomorrow in cairo. we've also been told that the egyptian side is so far more favorable to the hamas position. >> richard engel, thank you very much. thanks for the latest on the negotiations from gaza and this weekend, president obama made it absolutely clear that he sides with israel in this dispute with hamas. >> there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders. we are fully supportive of israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes. and work places and potentially killing civilians. >> long-time middle east diplomat dennis ross joins me now, just back from israel last night. dennis, first of all, the ban ki-moon, the u.n. secretary general now is planning, be according to the u.n., to meet with netanyahu in israel after meets in cairo with president morsi and abbas in the west bank. up until this point the u.n. has not been a player here. what is your understanding of the terms of engagement in the efforts to re
more talks are expected tomorrow in cairo. we've also been told that the egyptian side is so far more favorable to the hamas position. >> richard engel, thank you very much. thanks for the latest on the negotiations from gaza and this weekend, president obama made it absolutely clear that he sides with israel in this dispute with hamas. >> there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders. we are fully supportive of...
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the latest is that the diplomatic thought in cairo continued to take place. back to you. >> shannon: david lee miller live on the border between gaza and israel. thank you. new calls for susan rice to testify against the attack in benghazi, libya. they tackled the closed door talks on capitol hill. doug mckelway has been keeping up. to find out what the folks had to say. >> afternoon. what we are hearing today is a sharp divide between interpretation of the former c.i.a. director david petraeus' system by the congressional republicans and congressional democrats. republicans on the one hand said sometime after the c.i.a. talk points about benghazi issued by the c.i.a. keywording that pointed to a terrorist attack was taken out. republicans want to know who took it out. democrats are in protective mode around u.s. ambassador rice and the president. >> the issue is whether susan rice should be pillarried for using the intelligence reports that david petraeus signed off on. which is dni, the director of national intelligence, mr. clapper signed off on. were they
the latest is that the diplomatic thought in cairo continued to take place. back to you. >> shannon: david lee miller live on the border between gaza and israel. thank you. new calls for susan rice to testify against the attack in benghazi, libya. they tackled the closed door talks on capitol hill. doug mckelway has been keeping up. to find out what the folks had to say. >> afternoon. what we are hearing today is a sharp divide between interpretation of the former c.i.a. director...
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diplomat efforts are under way in cairo. egypt knows without a truce the conflict could spread throughout the area. both sides have conditions the leader said israel must stop killing its leaders and give palestinians more freedom to travel and import goods. israeli prime minister netanyahu, according to aides, also wanted a negotiated settlement. first, a cease-fire, then more talking. the palestinian negotiator visited gaza with a message from the cairo talks. >> yes, there is a possibility that there are serious negotiations. but israel will have to give up its attempt to cow us and look like it is a surrender. >> reporter: what are they asking from the palestinian side? >> they start with -- a call for surrender, i mean, you stop, you deliver your weapons and then we'll see what to do. >> reporter: a truce is in the works, but until that happens gaza remains under attack. richard engel, nbc news, gaza. >>> this is martin fletcher in southern israel where everyone is desperate to know, ground invasion of gaza or truce? of
diplomat efforts are under way in cairo. egypt knows without a truce the conflict could spread throughout the area. both sides have conditions the leader said israel must stop killing its leaders and give palestinians more freedom to travel and import goods. israeli prime minister netanyahu, according to aides, also wanted a negotiated settlement. first, a cease-fire, then more talking. the palestinian negotiator visited gaza with a message from the cairo talks. >> yes, there is a...
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does not want to be seen to be in the middle of the very difficult negotiations going on right now in cairo. >>shepard: thank you, jonathan hunt. the prime minister turkey, accused the israelis of carrying out terrorist acts and the leader in turkey now calls israel a "terrorist state" and criticized world powers for israel a turn for turkey a volatile part of the world. turkey and israel used to be allies and now to mike barrett, a fresh guest on this program is countriesly the c.e.o. of the washington, dc, consulting firm. good evening, mike. the turkish people have come out loud and strong. >>guest: it marks a huge turning point. a lot of the coverage is about egypt and camp david and we spoke about that last week. that is a major, major factor but the other thing and this is often not very visible to americans, turkey has had a major shift from being pro eastern to pro eastern. their government is not particularly radical but in terms of relations with israel they are 180 degrees from historically. >>shepard: palestinian citizens, people would live on that, in the gaza strip, and their
does not want to be seen to be in the middle of the very difficult negotiations going on right now in cairo. >>shepard: thank you, jonathan hunt. the prime minister turkey, accused the israelis of carrying out terrorist acts and the leader in turkey now calls israel a "terrorist state" and criticized world powers for israel a turn for turkey a volatile part of the world. turkey and israel used to be allies and now to mike barrett, a fresh guest on this program is countriesly the...
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go to cairo, to the shops of cairo, and you will see photographs of ahmadinejad, an iranian leader. why? because he stands up for the palestinians. that's the game the iranians play, and my guess is the more horrible the pictures are out of gaza the more there is a sense of this massive drift of power between israel and the palestinians. the more iran will be seen as one of the few countries that is willing to really stand up and speak against the west and, you know, they have, as you know, very colorful rhetoric, but that's all geared towards this regional gain where they're almost outwitting the arab against the palestinians. >> let me veer off to israel for a moment. benjamin netanyahu is up for reelection soon. how much do you think what's happening now, this rousing with gaza, does or doesn't have anything to do with him? >> we have to hope this has nothing to do with that because this is a very serious business. not only is he taking his own country into a military operation, he is risking regional stability because you have a whole different regional dynamic at play now. you
go to cairo, to the shops of cairo, and you will see photographs of ahmadinejad, an iranian leader. why? because he stands up for the palestinians. that's the game the iranians play, and my guess is the more horrible the pictures are out of gaza the more there is a sense of this massive drift of power between israel and the palestinians. the more iran will be seen as one of the few countries that is willing to really stand up and speak against the west and, you know, they have, as you know,...
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president obama made clear that benghazi and events and cairo were separate. so from the get-go they had a clear set of facts. it was okay to say those things in 60 minutes and indefense to say it one have been okay to build on that theme in the days ahead. >> gregg: the president also said, look, susan rice didn't have anything to do with benghazi. will nobody in the news conference bothered to ask him. did you send her out four days later on five different talk shows on sunday to talk about benghazi -- that doesn't make sense. at his news conference, president obama said this in reference to the attacks in benghazi. my orders were do whatever we need to do to make sure they are safe -- that is to say those under attack. well, no help arrived. turns out they weren't made safe. they were killed. does that sound like the president's orders therefore, commander in chief were ignored or somehow refused unless, of course, he really never made those orders? >> if the president meant what he said, there is only two uncomfortable possibilities. one, he didn't really
president obama made clear that benghazi and events and cairo were separate. so from the get-go they had a clear set of facts. it was okay to say those things in 60 minutes and indefense to say it one have been okay to build on that theme in the days ahead. >> gregg: the president also said, look, susan rice didn't have anything to do with benghazi. will nobody in the news conference bothered to ask him. did you send her out four days later on five different talk shows on sunday to talk...
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remember, there were protests about those videos so they looked at the protests in cairo and assumed it was something similar. i would imagine petraeus will testify something to that effect. i doubt very much he'll say well, i knew this all along and you know, susan rice went out there and said something completely contradictory. my guess is there were two schools of thought or two sets of evidence in the administration from the start. the video and al qaeda -- >> i think what he says is he had to then rule out the 20 different intelligence reports they received or more which indicated it could have been the video. he had to rule that out before they could give a clear view. we will leave it there. thank you very much indeed. good to see you. >> as always, pleasure. >>> next, governor romney blasts president obama's victory saying he won because of gifts he promised to minority groups. >>> what the president -- president's campaign did is focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government and then work very aggressively to turn
remember, there were protests about those videos so they looked at the protests in cairo and assumed it was something similar. i would imagine petraeus will testify something to that effect. i doubt very much he'll say well, i knew this all along and you know, susan rice went out there and said something completely contradictory. my guess is there were two schools of thought or two sets of evidence in the administration from the start. the video and al qaeda -- >> i think what he says is...
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, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo which were prompted, of course, by the video. >> sean: good luck explaining that at confirmation hearing. white house was asked about it. >> does the president have confidence that susan rice could get confirmation for any post in the future? >> i will not engage in speculation. the president believes ambassador rice has done an excellent job is grateful for her service. >> sean: joining me for reaction advisor for harry reid penny lee. mercedes, will this be problematic? >> absolutely. first of all she has not gained the respect of the republicans and congress. when you are talking that, it's very puzzling when you see that three intelligence officials came out in the daily beast saying that in 24 hours they knew that this attack was linked to al-qaeda. that is an important point to make there with sues an reib. the fact she was to on talking points. she sounded like a loyal soldier for president obama than she did in really talking about what happened in benghazi. this goes back to our poor judgment, linked back
, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo which were prompted, of course, by the video. >> sean: good luck explaining that at confirmation hearing. white house was asked about it. >> does the president have confidence that susan rice could get confirmation for any post in the future? >> i will not engage in speculation. the president believes ambassador rice has done an excellent job is grateful for her service. >> sean: joining me for...
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ban ki-moon is heading to cairo for emergency negotiations. if you're just joining us, welcome, everybody. yes, we are seeing a bit of a bounce on european equity markets this morningle following on from the selling that we saw especially late end of last week. there is hope that we could be looking at some type of an agreement taking place and he that we could overt a fiscal cliff. again, this is just talk at the moment. until the dotted line is signed, we're still up for anything at this stage. there's a little bit of a risk on type environment at the moment. and the ten year bund yield moving a little higher. the same goes for spain, built oig and yield, as well. we were looking at the euro just bouncing a little bit against the dollar. you're heading into this morning's session, we're holding on to those gains, 127 and a bit. the dollar yen coming off by just a tad. president obama meeting with myanmar's president and opposition leader. obama saying his six hour stopover should be seen as a sign of support for myanmar's attempts at democra
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in obama and one reason is that i think obama visited in two thousand and nine cairo and he never visited israel and now it is has been mentioned again and again is being. used by the right wing led by netanyahu voices mentioning the fact that romney came here just before the elections and obama seems to be more cold against israel though if you look at his record. obama was not a great friend of netanyahu but it is same time he was very generous to israel when it came to supply of weapons and defending israel at the u.n. so obama and i'm always white line by netanyahu to bring weapons to bring weapons into israel as we know it's no secret all the that obama and netanyahu have not been the best their friend certainly since obama came into the white house if i may briefly i've got a very running very long time here at the iranian nuclear issue certainly and no doubt is going to be one of the core issues to be discussed do you think with a republican at the helm of the white house that a peaceful solution can be found with iran. i believe that here again the rhetoric's was a little bit diff
in obama and one reason is that i think obama visited in two thousand and nine cairo and he never visited israel and now it is has been mentioned again and again is being. used by the right wing led by netanyahu voices mentioning the fact that romney came here just before the elections and obama seems to be more cold against israel though if you look at his record. obama was not a great friend of netanyahu but it is same time he was very generous to israel when it came to supply of weapons and...
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secretary general ban ki-moon who traveled to cairo today where those negotiations are taking place. is he going to meet with egypt's president mohammed morsi tomorrow. later this week he will travel to israel to meet with prime minister netanyahu and also to the west bank to meet the palestinian president mahmoud abbas. the trouble with these negotiations as so often in these cases is who stops firing first. in the word of u.s. officials that is clearly up to hamas to do. listen. >> we have been very clear that israel has a right of self-defense. we have been very clear that rockets continue to be fired and land on israel. we have been very clear that we are working to try to get this conflict deescalated. we have been very clear about our concern for civilians and innocence on both sides. >> important to note that while diplomacy has not yet succeeded, neither, shep, has it failed. shep? >> shepard: jonathan hunt at the united nations for us. well, it was a huge day on wall street. as stocks soared to the best trading session since the presidential election since nearly two weeks a
secretary general ban ki-moon who traveled to cairo today where those negotiations are taking place. is he going to meet with egypt's president mohammed morsi tomorrow. later this week he will travel to israel to meet with prime minister netanyahu and also to the west bank to meet the palestinian president mahmoud abbas. the trouble with these negotiations as so often in these cases is who stops firing first. in the word of u.s. officials that is clearly up to hamas to do. listen. >> we...
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most in the arab world has preferred and obama victory back in two thousand and nine in his now famous cairo speech a bomb a pledge that he was going to introduce a new chapter in american muslim relations but since then there has been a lot of disappointment over the way he has dealt with issues in the arab world particularly these are the muslims he was a lot of criticisms leveled against him in his administration over the way they handled the arab spring they were accused of doing double standards and inconsistency and also accused of meddling in countries such as egypt and libya and then when it comes to the so-called and noticed revolutions of the rain for example with pro-democracy demonstrators have been taking to the streets a bomb has kept quiet. unlike across the middle east obama's election triumph was met more positively even warmly in russia both president vladimir putin and pm dmitri medvedev which the democrat well during his next term though the question remains whether he can breathe new life into the historically sensitive relations between the two nations what is your posi
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i've come here to cairo to seek a new beginning between the united states and muslims around the world charismatic promising a new barack obama swept into office on the wake of the yes we can euphoria invoiced greed aspirations which even got him through two thousand and nine nobel peace prize we knew that change had come to egypt today the libyan people are writing a new chapter. obama personally supported the arab spring but as soon as all governments fell a new powers emerged the murder of u.s. diplomats in libya in white spread n.-t. american protests all over the muslim world didn't exactly show the kind of gratitude washington expected that's far as we are concerned and i'm speaking about the average person on the street including many arab nationalists now some rights left us and upon the people of different backgrounds we still view obama as a representative of us imperialism. with a sudden backlash in the middle east and back in washington the far east has become yet another source of irritation night i'm announcing the creation of a trade enforcement unit that will be charged
i've come here to cairo to seek a new beginning between the united states and muslims around the world charismatic promising a new barack obama swept into office on the wake of the yes we can euphoria invoiced greed aspirations which even got him through two thousand and nine nobel peace prize we knew that change had come to egypt today the libyan people are writing a new chapter. obama personally supported the arab spring but as soon as all governments fell a new powers emerged the murder of...
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when you look at the ongoing negotiations in had cairo with the turks and egyptians and other regional states trying to broker a cease-fire agreement. it's hamas setting up the dinner table. it's not israel authorities. whatever its defensive rationale, and i support israel's right to defend itself, it's radicalizing the posturing. you see unite around hamas this is not good for u.s. policy in the region. >> eliot: we have this mundane but nets question who is winning, and win something hard to define but joe you gave one interpretation, who is being elevated, who is gaining negotiating leverage in the long run. do you agree that hamas is gaining ground in this? >> yes, but they gain ground in the weirdest way. hamas does not succeed by causing more pain to israel. it's the opposite. it succeed by forcing israel to behave in such a way that hundreds of civilians or dozens of civilians are killed. hamas is not inflicting damage on israel as you pointed out in your statement. the iron dome defense system has largely spared israel from harm. israel succeed by harming hamas. israel fails b
when you look at the ongoing negotiations in had cairo with the turks and egyptians and other regional states trying to broker a cease-fire agreement. it's hamas setting up the dinner table. it's not israel authorities. whatever its defensive rationale, and i support israel's right to defend itself, it's radicalizing the posturing. you see unite around hamas this is not good for u.s. policy in the region. >> eliot: we have this mundane but nets question who is winning, and win something...